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| Posted: 05:42am 11 Sep 2025 |
Just spent the last 3-4 days coding a new project on a PicoVGA connected to TeraTerm and powered by the USB cable. I left it running overnight to see if there were any issues and this morning I was greeted by MSOFT telling me the PC needs a restart. Guess what I did ?
Unfortunately, I have been to used to programming mites and forgot to save the code to flash or the PC so when the PC came back the Pico was blank.
OA47
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| Posted: 06:34am 11 Sep 2025 |
Oh dear. :(
You will stray from the golden path to true enlightenment though! Such futile actions cannot go unpunished in some way. ;)
It's like nudging the ram pack on a ZX81 when you are just entering the last line of the program that you are copying from a magazine. Only this time you have Microsoft to help. :(
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| Posted: 07:00am 11 Sep 2025 |
You remind me of the days I had my first 8 bit computer where I would delay the saving of the program until the last minute as it took ages to save on cassette. I vividly remember the sound of thunder in the background and the knowledge that a lightning strike even kilometers away was enough to rest the computer.
OA47
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| Posted: 07:10am 11 Sep 2025 |
OA47,
If you have ever RUN the program on the PicoVGA, then it is still in flash. Simply open teraterm, and type "LIST", or "F2"(edit)
To erase a program from flash you actively have to execute a "NEW", or update the firmware (i.e. from 5.08.00 to 6.00.03). Otherwise the program is still there.
Regards,
Volhout
Edited 2025-09-11 17:10 by Volhout
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| Posted: 07:10am 11 Sep 2025 |
No backup, no mercy
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| Posted: 07:31am 11 Sep 2025 |
Unfortunately if I list from Teraterm I get nothing. The PicoVGA is running ver 5.0704 and memory reports:
Program:
0K ( 0%) Program (0 lines)
108K (100%) Free
RAM:
0K ( 0%) 0 Variables
0K ( 0%) General
140K (100%) Free
OA47
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| Posted: 08:06am 11 Sep 2025 |
Hi OA47,
Maybe this is the time to upgrade to 6.01.00b11. It is simply 1 button press, and a drag and drop.
I think the earliest ports of MMbasic on RP2040 ran the code in RAM. Maybe 5.07.04 was that early version (although I think 5.07.04 was already flash based). Later versions are running from flash, while maintaining similar speed.
Volhout
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| Posted: 09:58pm 11 Sep 2025 |
As an afterthought, I was wondering as Teraterm was still running after the PC re-boot could I have been able to look at the history and got most of the code back ?
OA47
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| Posted: 11:35pm 11 Sep 2025 |
Tested with a Windows restart.
Answer:- No not with TeraTerm 5.2. TeraTerm restarted with an empty buffer.
As for the PicoMite (RP2040 V6.01.00b11) it continued to run its program without a hiccup throughout the restart.
Perhaps a Windows Update is different. If it starts the virtual com port at 1200 baud the Pico would go into Firmware Update mode. If Windows sees that as a corrupt USB drive it may try to "repair" it.
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| Posted: 02:00am 13 Sep 2025 |
Tested with Windows Update.
Pico connected to TeraTerm and program running then let Windows do the update.
Once again the PicoMite continued to run its program without a hiccup throughout the update.
So what happened to yours remains a mystery.
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| Posted: 02:15am 13 Sep 2025 |
Phil, I did notice an error message from mmbasic during both of the re-boots of the PC but they were only visable for a split second and I could not interpret them.
OA47
Edited 2025-09-13 12:16 by OA47