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Forum Index : Microcontroller and PC projects : AI Research Project Ongoing
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| PhenixRising Guru Joined: 07/11/2023 Location: United KingdomPosts: 1686 |
@Revlac The other thread was locked out after you suggested I "have a coffee and calm down" In that message, you referenced the "ping pong ball through a bat" Myth buster video as if it was proof of something. Do you even have a clue about this? Did you see a spherical object pass through the bat as a sphere? Did you pay attention to the proximity of the muzzle of the air cannon to the bat? This is the downright ignorance that prevails today. All that needs to happen is a misleading video to "prove" something. Hint: there is a German product "Alarmo" that is totally devastating and all it shoots is 5000PSI of air...no projectile. You DID NOT see a spherical object pass through that bat...watch again and let's start talking real physics here(?) |
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| lizby Guru Joined: 17/05/2016 Location: United StatesPosts: 3523 |
How can one explain something that isn't true? According to my sources, "Concorde’s total fuel capacity was about 26,300 Imperial gallons". Perhaps you were thinking of the WW II B-29 (approx. 7,859 Imperial gallons). So I kinda doubt you actually did ask AI about it. ~ Edited 2025-11-29 11:48 by lizby PicoMite, Armmite F4, SensorKits, MMBasic Hardware, Games, etc. on fruitoftheshed |
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| PhenixRising Guru Joined: 07/11/2023 Location: United KingdomPosts: 1686 |
You must be thinking liters Try applying some logic instead of accepting horse sh*te. Look at the Concorde....26,000 gallons??? But you know what, they might as well state 26M gallons and you'd still accept it....because they told you. |
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| lizby Guru Joined: 17/05/2016 Location: United StatesPosts: 3523 |
Are you denying that "typical London–New York Concorde flights took about 3 to 3.5 hours gate‑to‑gate" and that "likely on the order of 1.5–2 million people—flew on some combination of London–New York or New York–London sectors"? PicoMite, Armmite F4, SensorKits, MMBasic Hardware, Games, etc. on fruitoftheshed |
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| PhenixRising Guru Joined: 07/11/2023 Location: United KingdomPosts: 1686 |
And herein lies the problem: The critical thinker: Well I have analyzed the structure and calculated the required volume of the tanks and to be honest, I really can't see how this could even work. I mean, 0.57 miles/gallon with those Olympus turbo fans just doesn't add up. Non critical thinker who is happy to be told what to believe: Are you saying that the plane didn't fly from London to NY. Of course the plane flew. My friend used it several times, only for bragging rights. But how was it really propelled at mach-2? |
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| Mixtel90 Guru Joined: 05/10/2019 Location: United KingdomPosts: 8402 |
WHOA!.... I know I drift off track, but I do try not to for too long. :) Lizby does have a valid point. This thread was started to continue the AI discussion after the previous one drifted too far out. It would be rather nice to keep this one running now. :) Would you like to start some sort of "critical thinking" thread, PhenixRising? It could be interesting. Mick Zilog Inside! nascom.info for Nascom & Gemini Preliminary MMBasic docs & my PCB designs |
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| lizby Guru Joined: 17/05/2016 Location: United StatesPosts: 3523 |
Failures as well as successes should be reported. I asked Gemini if it could design circuits. It said yes. I prompted with something quite simple--a simulation PCB for testing control of my 3 boiler zones with a Tasmotized Sonoff 4CH Pro R3, with the PCB having only connections to that, a 2-pin 5mm terminal block for 9VAC input, and 4 10MM LEDs with appropriate resistors--all in EasyEDA format. It produced a file, but was unable to tell me how to import it successfully. Everything I tried got error messages. It said it would do better with a Kicad file, but that, while imported with no errors, showed no circuit. There was quite a bit of it telling me how I could lay it out, but I repeatedly said that was not the point: if I just wanted the circuit, I would do it with perfboard--what I wanted was for Gemini to do it. After faffing about for over an hour, I gave up. Maybe Gemini 4 will be able to do it. On the other hand, it has provided some very valuable and time-saving code about hardening my Seagate Dockstars running openWrt, and providing more logging and reporting. That interaction has been very satisfactory, and I've learned a lot. But I also had a HAL moment. It lost context, and got stuck on a previous prompt, repeating itself over and over (regarding the circuit design). I had to close the browser page and start a new one. ~ Edited 2025-12-03 12:19 by lizby PicoMite, Armmite F4, SensorKits, MMBasic Hardware, Games, etc. on fruitoftheshed |
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| Mixtel90 Guru Joined: 05/10/2019 Location: United KingdomPosts: 8402 |
"I'm sorry, Lizby, I can't do that." It probably can design circuits in the form of schematics, possibly as a netlist, but it may not be able to convert the netlist into a pcb. Netlists aren't easy for humans to understand either, and I don't think there is a defined standard for them. You'd have a job finding a netlist-pcb converter to suit a weird netlist. Mick Zilog Inside! nascom.info for Nascom & Gemini Preliminary MMBasic docs & my PCB designs |
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| lizby Guru Joined: 17/05/2016 Location: United StatesPosts: 3523 |
It produced schematics in a number of formats, but EasyEDA couldn't import any of them. This is just another of those things which it can't do now, but probably soon will be able to do. PicoMite, Armmite F4, SensorKits, MMBasic Hardware, Games, etc. on fruitoftheshed |
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| lizby Guru Joined: 17/05/2016 Location: United StatesPosts: 3523 |
On the advice of Gemini, I purchased a Sonoff 4CHPRO R3 4-relay module to provide additional control of the 3 zones on my boiler. I won't be present to do the installation until May, but I flashed it with Tasmota and wired up 4 LEDs on a perfboard to emulate it. I gave this prompt to Gemini: It took one adjustment, but this is the code it produced: #!/bin/sh # --- Configuration --- IP="192.168.1.185" # --------------------- echo "Starting Sonoff 4CH Sequence (Ash Compatible)..." # Helper function to send command set_relay() { # $1 = Relay Number, $2 = State (On/Off) curl -s "http://${IP}/cm?cmnd=Power${1}%20${2}" > /dev/null echo " -> Relay $1 turned $2" } # 1. Turn on each relay in sequence (1 second interval) echo "--- Sequence: Turning ON one by one ---" for i in 1 2 3 4; do set_relay $i "On" sleep 1 done # 2. Pause 3 seconds echo "Waiting 3 seconds..." sleep 3 # 3. Turn off each relay in sequence (1 second interval) echo "--- Sequence: Turning OFF one by one ---" for i in 1 2 3 4; do set_relay $i "Off" sleep 1 done # 4. Turn them ALL ON echo "--- ALL ON ---" # We use 'Power0' which is Tasmota's shortcut for "All Relays" curl -s "http://${IP}/cm?cmnd=Power0%20On" > /dev/null echo " -> All Relays set to ON" # 5. Pause 5 seconds echo "Waiting 5 seconds..." sleep 5 # 6. Turn them ALL OFF echo "--- ALL OFF ---" curl -s "http://${IP}/cm?cmnd=Power0%20Off" > /dev/null echo " -> All Relays set to OFF" # 7. Random Loop (Continuous) echo "--- Entering Random Mode (Ctrl+C to stop) ---" while true; do # ASH Random Logic (No arrays allowed) # Get a random number from system entropy if $RANDOM is missing, # but most OpenWrt builds include $RANDOM. # If this fails, we can read from /dev/urandom. # Pick Relay 1-4 # Take a random number, modulo 4, add 1. RELAY=$(( (RANDOM % 4) + 1 )) # Pick State (0 or 1) RAND_STATE=$(( RANDOM % 2 )) if [ "$RAND_STATE" -eq 1 ]; then STATE="On" else STATE="Off" fi set_relay $RELAY $STATE sleep 2 done Youtube Video: Sonoff 4CHPRO R3 exercised ~ Edited 2025-12-08 04:09 by lizby PicoMite, Armmite F4, SensorKits, MMBasic Hardware, Games, etc. on fruitoftheshed |
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| lizby Guru Joined: 17/05/2016 Location: United StatesPosts: 3523 |
I took another step; to Gemini: It did this and I brought it up in the browser from the local drive. I asked it how to set it up on my Seagate Dockstar (16-year-old gear) running openWrt, and it told me and provided the code: html in /www, script in /www/cgi-bin, monitoring script in home directory, crontab entry. All worked very straightforwardly. ![]() In years past I have been ready to tear my hair out over this stuff. Now I'll be able next May to upgrade my control of the 3 zones of my boiler, in parallel with the thermostats so they still work. The Sonoff 4CHPRO R3 cost me $25 on Amazon ("Black Friday" price). The boiler manufacturer wants $800 for gear of similar capacity ($800 Canadian--about $600 USD). PicoMite, Armmite F4, SensorKits, MMBasic Hardware, Games, etc. on fruitoftheshed |
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| MarkF Regular Member Joined: 01/08/2023 Location: AustraliaPosts: 48 |
I've been using various AI tools/LLMs since November 2022. Regarding AI use, a few things to remember: 1) The AI you use today is the poorest-performing it will ever be! Tools/LLMs like ChatGPT, Grok, Claude, and Gemini continue to improve daily. I've seen significant improvement in these models this year alone (2025). ChatGPT couldn't even access the internet back in March 2025. 2) Some models are better than others at certain tasks. If you don't get the results you expected, copy-and-paste the same prompt into a different AI model. For example, I've found Gemini to be the best for image generation. 3) Feed in helpful data. If you have a Word/PDF of your notes, thoughts, electrical data, diagrams, etc., include that as an attachment to your prompt. The AI's reply will be much better. I personally like to take the AI's response and add selected points into my research notes document. Then I'll run the prompt again, sometimes in a different AI model, just to gain other insights. 4) Once recursive self-improvement begins (expected in 2026), AI will be better than anyone on the planet in any field. It's going to be scary times! |
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| lizby Guru Joined: 17/05/2016 Location: United StatesPosts: 3523 |
China Talk PicoMite, Armmite F4, SensorKits, MMBasic Hardware, Games, etc. on fruitoftheshed |
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| lizby Guru Joined: 17/05/2016 Location: United StatesPosts: 3523 |
Prompt for ChatGPT-5: tl;dr: Long form: PicoMite, Armmite F4, SensorKits, MMBasic Hardware, Games, etc. on fruitoftheshed |
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| twofingers Guru Joined: 02/06/2014 Location: GermanyPosts: 1713 |
Thanks, Lance, for that question! But doesn't the answer assume a cylindrical Earth? (Image: ChatGPT) At my location in northern Germany, I hardly get any yield from my solar panels in winter. Kind regards and Happy New Year to everyone on this cylindrical planet! Michael causality ≠ correlation ≠ coincidence |
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| lizby Guru Joined: 17/05/2016 Location: United StatesPosts: 3523 |
Re: Consider Saul Griffith's assertion: "In every possible future of this planet, the cheapest electricity will always be your rooftop solar", I would add, "but not everywhere, and not at every season". It's interesting (to me) that about 65-70% of Canada's population (and virtually all of the U.S.'s except Alaska), live at a lower latitude than Munich (Germany's largest southernmost city). And about 93% of the world's population lives closer to the equator than Munich. Netherlands gets about 17% of its electricity from solar, Germany 14%, and even Denmark 11% (probably highly seasonal). So northern Europe is out of luck for solar--93% of the world's population is better situated. But you've got wind--just not on your rooftop. So even without the cylindrical world, Saul Griffith's statement might be true in northern Europe--but only in the summer. Let's hope that deep geothermal proves to be economical--local baseload, but not residentially local. And Happy New Year to all. ~ Edited 2026-01-01 01:24 by lizby PicoMite, Armmite F4, SensorKits, MMBasic Hardware, Games, etc. on fruitoftheshed |
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