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FlashmanAB

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Joined: 19/08/2009
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Posted: 09:43am 06 Sep 2009
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Hi, I apologise well in advance for my newbie question.
I have been reading the posts for weeks and take my hat off to the time, ingenuity and perseverence of the supporters of this forum.
I love the idea of generating clean power but I don't have the money up-front to buy solar panels. I am keen to try and build a wind turbine and have just bought a F&P washing machine motor. (used)
The link is to the picture of a rewired stator and I was wondering what the output voltage is likely to be using this rig. Stator Star
I am supposing it could be used in either 12 V or 36 V, but not 24 V.
Do you recommend filtering the DC coming out of the rectifier using caps?
Has anyone sucessfully used old truck, tractor or forklift batteries for power storage? I bought Hugh Piggott's book and he suggested forklift batteries but there may be a big difference between the common forklift battery in the UK and in Australia.
AndrewEdited by FlashmanAB 2009-09-07
 
GWatPE

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Joined: 01/09/2006
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Posted: 09:57am 06 Sep 2009
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  FlashmanAB said  I am keen to try and build a wind turbine and have just bought a P&P washing machine motor. (used)


I assume this is a F&P.

The pic you show is good for 12V. This would be a 2s7p stator wired in star.

The intended loading will determine if a capacitor filtering system needs to be installed.

Matching of 2nd hand batteries is required.

intended operating speed of the rotor will dictate the best matching.

Gordon.
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FlashmanAB

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Posted: 10:16am 06 Sep 2009
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  GWatPE said  The intended loading will determine if a capacitor filtering system needs to be installed.

Hi Gordon, thanks for the reply. Do you mean that if you are charging a battery you don't necessarily have to smooth the DC?
Could you recommend an F&P stator configuration capable of 24 V output in an exposed, windy area?
AndrewEdited by FlashmanAB 2009-09-07
 
GWatPE

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Posted: 01:53pm 06 Sep 2009
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The battery is equivalent to a really big cap.

I used series100 wired in delta. The series80 rewired 7s2p is almost the same output. If you add a Cap voltage doubler[approx 470uF 250VDC back to back caps], improved low end performance and loading will result. Be careful with rotor more than 2.4m dia, as this will likely overpower a single stator design.

I just gave away my F&P stuff and have moved to all AxFx designs. Will be making another from aluminium eventually. There is something about a windmill that spins when the anemometer doesn't. Under 1kph winds have pretty low energy. Doesn't seem to worry the AxFx, with around 25rpm, and ready for the 1-2W puffs that go straight to the battery.

The F&P was a good phase for me and I cut my teeth proving the cap arrangements with it.

Hope you make a winner to.

Gordon.

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FlashmanAB

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Posted: 10:08pm 06 Sep 2009
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Hi Gordon, thanks for the reply. I am reading and learning as I go but I think I will follow your lead. "Cut my teeth" on an F&P.
The metalwork is coming along (F&P) and the whole house smells like resin from the solder!
Andrew
 
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