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windman1000
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Posted: 05:21am 21 Oct 2009
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I know everything here is a no no but i had to try it, (16 8in pvc pipe blades 6.3 ft) ,3:1 gearing.








 
Gizmo

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Posted: 05:27am 21 Oct 2009
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Holy cow! Thats just radical.
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windman1000
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Posted: 05:38am 21 Oct 2009
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After I get the RPM Fixed then il do some data load checks and maybe go 4:1, This work out a lot better than i thought, and at 8-9 mph wind it charges at 2 amps.
 
KarlJ

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Posted: 10:43am 21 Oct 2009
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what a beast!

Nice work nonethe less

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gpalterpower

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Posted: 11:32am 21 Oct 2009
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that is bewdiful! total work of art. love the cog belt setup.

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AMACK

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Posted: 12:12pm 21 Oct 2009
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Nice job, it's out there.. What is the motor from?
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GWatPE

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Posted: 12:26pm 21 Oct 2009
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Hi Windman,

All those blades??

Looks like my piclog viewer is right at home.

Seems like the battery is not able to cope well with the maximum power. You will need overvoltage protection for equipment that is connected to it.

Gordon.

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windman1000
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Posted: 01:44pm 21 Oct 2009
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AMACK this motor is a Mavilor dc servo 4.3kw

GWatPE (All those blades??)
I built this for low wind, yes the piclog shows 27 mph wind speed but we only get that kinda wind maybe 3 times a year, most of the time 5-10 mph wind and 15 mph wind is max , all my generator setups before this i might charge at a low amp/voltage 4-6 times a year.(NOT GOOD)

I started with 3 blades then 4 blades then 6 blades then 8 then 12 then 16 all derect drive and the 16 blade out performed all other blade setups in low wind.

Thats when i decided to build a 6.3 ft 16 blade and 3:1 gearing for low wind, I really thought if this worked that the blade would stop or slow way down at 10 amp generator load, by watching the rotation i never see it changing with load ( I need My RPM Encoder Working )to really see what is going on.

It starts up at 3 mph and starts charging at 2 amps at 8-9 mph wind , This is the best resolts so far out of many generators.
 
MacGyver

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Posted: 04:03am 22 Oct 2009
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Outstanding!

You will find that the air spilling off each blade slightly compresses between itself and the next in line. This serves as a built-in over-speed mechanism. The "Aeromotor" windmills of the old West (USA) that pumped water were of a similar design.

The only thing you'll have to keep an eye on is your tower in that you have a very large wind 'footprint' up there in the breeze. In very high winds, you'll want to furl the thing and I'm assuming the tail is hinged for that purpose.

As for power; the sky's the limit with this design. The Aeromotors pulled water from 150 feet on a daily basis, some for nearly 100 years!

Good work.
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GWatPE

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Posted: 07:23am 22 Oct 2009
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This motor/generator has an axial flux ironless design. Good for a windmill. These are low inertia rotors, perfect for the original servo motor application, and will assist the low wind performance. Hopefully the brushes are replaceable. The commutator may give trouble over time with the high amps. A good furling system will take care of this problem though.

Going for a 4:1 gearing will give slightly more low winds power, but this will impact on the higher power levels as well. I doubt the additional loading would stall all those blades.

The fact that you have been able to increase the blade number to 16 indicates that these blades have quite a bit of drag. The gearing has allowed the generator to work better. I see this generator producing more power with a set of 3, more aerodynamic blades, without any gearing.

Did external constraints direct your testing towards the eventual outcome of a low rotor speed and gearing? Was there likely to be a complaint if the rotor speed was higher?

Gordon.

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JimBo911

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Posted: 01:38am 24 Oct 2009
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Very nice work there windman. It's windmills like this that keep things interesting.
Jim
 
philb

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Posted: 04:06am 25 Oct 2009
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Nice work Windman!
That's the largest servo I've seen flying.
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