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KeepIS

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I'm wondering the same thing, I notice a bid difference between the Windows version and the Linux version, loads faster and has an extra menu option for sending the binary compile code to you Home launch directory, I did not have to install it, it appears to run from the Appimage, new to Linux so I could by wrong?

It's not populated with all the addon's like the Win version and the only trace I can find is a folder in the root\tmp folder which is wiped empty when the IDE closes, AFAIK it does not try to connect to any Arduino server or web locations like the full Win install version.
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I'm not into net debate about VPN and security, my thoughts are that one may be needed to help bypass the police state overreach that will block/filter the internet in various countries, which is spreading around the globe.

Does anyone who uses a VPN have an opinion on any that don't log session data or are not already compromised. I was looking at protonvpn ?
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  Bryan1 said  Well looks like I may just have to load up my old laptop with this Zorin-18 as I did find while trying to do a update that was close to a gig using my starlink mini which was strangled and could only get 70Kb.   So though just leave going for a few hours only to find this new OS decided to require a login every 5 minutes and about 5 hours later got 90% downloaded then decided to pack up the mini.


I had the offer of a free mini from starlink (on loan until I cancel my main Starlink account), I thought there would be a catch, but no, I get free emergency low speed Internet access at no cost when high speed plan is paused, or when I don't have a plan.

I tried it on general internet browsing, this forum and emails etc and it was brilliant. Will be great if my Main starlink get damaged or fails, at least I can do banking and emails and browsing etc, without having to use mobile data and the mobile network. 

I also get half price full speed Mobile Stralink plans when I want to travel, and I can pause it when not in use.

BTW I find the slowdown is often the Net itself, or sites, as I can speed check to most test servers at very high speeds and low ping.
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  Quote  Does anyone who uses a VPN have an opinion on any that don't log session data or are not already compromised.

This Reddit thread Reddit Thread has a good Google Sheets table of better known VPN's and grades them on many attributes such as data data retention, country of origin etc.
It also has another Google Sheets table of browser based free VPN's if anyone just wants sparingly adhoc access.
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VPN VeePN - Free VPN for Firefox
Didn't see this one on the spreadsheet

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Never mind found it on the right hand side of the reddit page
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Thanks for the info, Firefox didn't have a VPN for Linux the last I checked, but was close to releasing one.

I'm sold on the New Brave browser, there is little forum or user feedback as yet as the only stuff I can find is for the old Versions, this new version is very slick.

When I've finished all this program installation and removals and finally have everything I need selected and tested, and learn how to cleanup effectively in future, I will start with a fresh install of the OS and do everything right with what I have learned so far.

Got visitors for a few days, so away from the fun (sometimes not so) but it's been a lot easier then I thought it would be so far.
   
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So I was looking at various quick backup options, including Timeshift and others, then I realized I had an app supplied in the Utility folder called Backup.

I'd remembered that I had enabled daily backups of the Home data.

It appears to do the same thing as Timeshift (I could be wrong), the App is actually "Déjà Dup" which is a GUI for duplicity, which I think uses the dd commands (?).

From what I have read it works fine and is supported directly and installed by Zorin, with a ton of help inbuilt into the Zorin OS help App including duplicity if you ever have a problem.

VPN: I decided to grab the black Friday offer for NORD VPM, it works beautifully and has  really good detailed informative help info right from the User logon page on the website.

At this stage I'm not worried about cloning the installation. I plan to reinstall the OS and restore the Home settings, then install the apps that I've decided to use and do a clone backup after it's all running, then set automated daily Incremental backups with "Déjà Dup"

Sigh so much more to learn.

EDIT: Totally sold on the New Brave browser, but sometimes I want to use another browser depending on the sites I 'm looking at:

FYI: I found LibreWolf 144.0.2-1 which is a custom version of Firefox with the primary goal of privacy, security and user freedom, according to the speil. It's certainly cut down in the Settings and has a few interesting options, I'm sure it's been mentioned here before, anyway I like it.  
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Waterfox - another Firefox-like Gecko browser - is nice too. Available for Windows, MacOS, Android and as a deb for linux. Mint can handle those.

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Thanks, yes I had a read about Waterfox, however the LibreWolf browser is very tight with what it will allow you to modify or any extensions you try to install install, so I went for it after the many security reviews and testing I read.  

BTW I don't download snap packages in Zorin. I hardly use any Flatpack and now go for the.deb packages etc.

I also added another software package search / download app as well.

I'm new to Linux but obviously aware of the dangers of shady packages and downloads, I usually go to the developers site first, have a look, and then do a comprehensive search for any dangers or problems with this developer and the App I'm interested in downloading and download site history and reports.
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In another thread I posted Link here about running the latest release of Ubuntu alongside Zorin.

I finally solved the new printer problem and the Arduino IDE problem.

The latest release of Ubuntu 25.xx has a snap package which also had an older version of the IDE around 1.8.7 but this time it has everything setup, and it works perfectly, I compiled a very large file via the USB port and it is so fast.

It also has regular device and core updates which it some of the others didn't for various reasons.  

Every other package download had a useless interface and was is not really suitable for my use. Like the other versions it allows me to use an external editor if needed, I'm going to try a few from the list of suggestions I have.  

After playing around with 25.xx and not really breaking anything, I decided to do a fresh install over the top of the test install as I'm really liking this release, time will tell.
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Best thing I ever did with the Arduino IDE was wiping it off. I was running it on a very small machine and it was simply too big, and bloated. I still have an Arduino in a drawer somewhere because what was supposed to be a replacement for the IDE seemed to have problems or was incomplete - I can't remember which now. Then I discovered MMBasic...  :)
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I think I mentioned having the same experience with other packages, however the snap IDE is fast and clean, the windows Arduino IDE is bloated to hell, they both look the same on the desktops, even though the Win IDE is a much later version, it's also slow to program anything big. All on the same hardware.

MMEdit works fine on the previous version of Ubuntu in Zorin, it will not work on the latest version. Nothing you do will allow it to find the installed qtbase5-dev libqt5webkit5, yes I installed it, and watched it install, sudo apt-get install qtbase5-dev also fails, and another way of installing also indicated that it's there and only a few files are to be updated, but the same error repeats, and using most Linux commands to actually find/search for the file in the system actually fail.

Looks like that AppArmor / sandboxing thing again in the latest evolving release.
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So, I've found a few IDE apps that have Arduino-IDE add on packages, so that's on the growing "to do" list.

Back on Zorin18 until the latest releases Ubuntu has some major package install bugs  sorted.
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  KeepIS said  [...] until the latest releases Ubuntu has some major package install bugs sorted.


you realize that the 25.xx Ubuntu releases all have a 9 month support limit? as i recall it is only the first of each even-numbered version of Ubuntu that are LTS versions, with support lasting for 5 years (LTS).

"Every fourth release, occurring in the second quarter of even-numbered years, has been designated as a long-term support (LTS) release". see:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_version_history

essentially, all the other releases that fall in between are betas. this is why, for instance, Mint versions (since 2014) only ever use the LTS releases of Ubuntu as a base; Mint 22 is based off Ubuntu 24.04. see:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Mint#Release_history

if you are after a stable system, if using Ubuntu then sticking with version 24.04 would be the best choice. that way you don't need to be upgrading every 9 months.


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Yes I was, I'm also using a stable release on the main drive.

I'm interested in trying new releases to see what they offer, it's no big deal as I run them from a USB-C 2TB SSD external drive.

I've also looked at the release cycle and history before I installed any of these Distros.

Perhaps others haven't, so your post might be of some value to them.

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The fastest way I found to try a distro is to download the iso and setup a very basic Virtual box (often I want to bridge the network and not NAT'ing, this can be easily set too) and use the image as bootable media in the drives setup.

Since some years I see more downside with new releases than benefit.
E.g. 24.04 brought snap and flatpak (into focus)..I'll stick with 22.04 base until 2027
 
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The more I research, read and listen to technical information and future plans for various Linux distros, the more I realize that this is not black and white, and things are changing weather we like it or not, I've heard strong arguments from both sides.

I'm keeping an open mind, and as you say, if people don't like where some distros are headed, they have a huge number of other or older distros to choose from.

I've changed my mind about Virtual box, and quickly loading a Win11 VM to access the tons of documents, information, code and over 300 passwords, as, and when I need them, it far superior than any other way for ease of access, usage and time FOR ME.

It loads a Win11 VM ready to run in 8 seconds, it runs perfectly for retrieving past information and loading apps I need to retrieve data etc..

I only use bootable ISO's to have a quick look at many distros before picking a few to really test properly with applications that I want to run. They get installed on an external 10Gbps USB-C NVMe M2 SSD for further playing around and it's obviously fast enough to not interfere with APP install and OS load times etc.

I'm simply going to have fun with this until I find what best suits my needs
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Off topic and hate all you want, but while using a Freetube viewer in Linux, I came across Talon Windows debloater that pulls a lot of scripts from various known sources like Chris titus etc and packages them in a single automated Win debloater, I used the Lite version of Talon, TalonLite, which is not as aggressive and should not break the system or installed apps .

It removed windows telemetry and all MS bloatware, MS Edge and unneeded services. I had a lot of this turned off but wanted to try a simple click and sit back option. All scripts are available from Git to view and a complete log file was saved and displayed whilst running.  

I've used many programs over the years to simplify the task of debloating and checking after a major version update, most of them broke things, some required a reinstall of Windows or and Image restore. MY current Major version is 2023H2, I have a policy installed that stops any Version upgrade to inbuilt AI spyware, it just gets security updates.    

All antivirus SW will flag this as dangerous program and they need to turned off before running, it's fully explained on the site. Obviously you have a backup of the system before running this.

If you don't agree, then don't use it, I'm really not interested in knowing or debating it.

I found it absolutely brilliant, this Win11 installation is around 4 years old. It's back to lightning fast desktop response and system response, 8 second boot to desktop, no fast start in the Bios and no fast start in Windows, no hibernate. Idle CPU less that 1%.

About the same as Ubuntu, I'm sure someone will lecture me about Ubuntu being among the slowest and CPU intensive distro in the whole universe, and obviously most other distros boot like lightning, my bad for making an totally unfair "out of interest" boot comparison. BTW they are both on the same drive.

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Thanks for posting.

No lectures from me, I'm interested to read the posts.

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Just for fun, I had quick play with running Linux on Windows via the WSL (Windows Subsystem for Linux) now updated to WSL2, the WLS environment is built into Win11, and also available for download for the latest builds of Win10. Both need to be updated once installed.

In Win11 you should enable WSL in "Turn Windows features on or off" settings along with the Virtual Machine Platform enabled.  

The Linux VM is a terminal interface, the latest version and earlier versions of Ubuntu LTS are available, along with various other Linux Distros, all available straight from the Microsoft Store for download, obviously the selected installed distro Terminal commands are then used to update the installation and configure a few things, and Install packages. I just put WSL in the search box in MS store for the supported Distros.

I installed a few editors and graphic packages from the Internet via terminal, all ran fine.

The apps installed via the Linux terminal automatically show up in the Windows Menu system under the chosen distros Folder Name. In my case "Ubuntu 24.04.1 LTS" with all apps grouped below, just click to open the app and it launches and looks like a windows app.

Like I said, I was simply interested to see if it actually ran.

EDIT: List available Linux distributions [Windows terminal]

wsl --list --online    

The following is a list of valid distributions that can be installed.
Install using 'wsl.exe --install <Distro>'.

NAME                            FRIENDLY NAME
AlmaLinux-8                     AlmaLinux OS 8
AlmaLinux-9                     AlmaLinux OS 9
AlmaLinux-Kitten-10             AlmaLinux OS Kitten 10
AlmaLinux-10                    AlmaLinux OS 10
Debian                          Debian GNU/Linux
FedoraLinux-43                  Fedora Linux 43
FedoraLinux-42                  Fedora Linux 42
SUSE-Linux-Enterprise-15-SP7    SUSE Linux Enterprise 15 SP7
SUSE-Linux-Enterprise-16.0      SUSE Linux Enterprise 16.0
Ubuntu                          Ubuntu
Ubuntu-24.04                    Ubuntu 24.04 LTS
archlinux                       Arch Linux
kali-linux                      Kali Linux Rolling
openSUSE-Tumbleweed             openSUSE Tumbleweed
openSUSE-Leap-16.0              openSUSE Leap 16.0
Ubuntu-20.04                    Ubuntu 20.04 LTS
Ubuntu-22.04                    Ubuntu 22.04 LTS
OracleLinux_7_9                 Oracle Linux 7.9
OracleLinux_8_10                Oracle Linux 8.10
OracleLinux_9_5                 Oracle Linux 9.5
openSUSE-Leap-15.6              openSUSE Leap 15.6
SUSE-Linux-Enterprise-15-SP6    SUSE Linux Enterprise 15 SP6

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